Tout Warrior Steve Moyer Has Died

Thats Steve all the way to the right, at the 2016 NL auction. He was tracking the auction on the spreadsheet.

Steve Moyer never won a Tout Wars title, but he was there at the leagues’ founding in 1998, and his contributions were an important part of Tout’s history. In 2001 we held the AL and NL auctions in his baseball memorabilia-filled basement in the Lehigh Valley in Pennsylvania. Why? Because he thought we should, and he was right.

We have set up a GoFundMe to benefit Steve’s two daughters. Please feel free to contribute if you’re so moved, or to share it if you cannot. Thanks.

You can read memorials by Lawr Michaels and Peter Kreutzer at, and by Ron Shandler and Steve Gardner and no doubt others on Facebook. The official obituary is here.

Let’s Give 10 Year Leaders Some Props

Tout Wars keeps a leaderboard. We imagine that each team pays $100 to be in the league, and that prize money is split up at the end of the season to teams who finish in the Top Third.

The other day we posted about the Five Year Leaderboard. Good for the What Have You Done for Me Lately Crowd, but who are the 10 Year All Stars?


Six of these 10 don’t have 10 years in. Attrition is a factor. Which give special props to Tristan Cockcroft and Larry Schechter.

You can play with the leaderboard at this Google Sheet.

The Tout Wars Leaderboard is Updated!

Fred Zinkie has won the most (imaginary) money the last five years, finishing in the money for the seventh straight year! (This post originally said Zinkie finished out of the money in 2017, but that was in error.)

But Fred’s remarkable dominance is being challenged by Rudy Gamble, who has finished second, second and first in his first three seasons in Tout, and Jeff Zimmerman, who has finished first twice in his two years. They both have a long way to go however, and Zinkie keeps on ticking.

You can see and peruse all of the results, and Tout Wars history, on the newly updated Tout Wars Leaderboard.

The Tout Wars Leaderboard Has Been Updated!

Though Tout Wars leagues are not money leagues, one way to measure a tout’s success is to pay the winners as if there were money involved.

Each year we charge each entry an imaginary $100, then divide the purse to the top 33 percent of the winners, with first place earning 50 percent and each place behind that half as much. In 15 team leagues the payouts are $674, $287, $93, -$3, -$51. In 12 team leagues the payouts are $540, $220, $60, $-20.

With his rookie win in Tout H2H, Jeff Zimmerman has the highest average win per season, slightly ahead of Adam Ronis, who has two firsts and fourth in his three season.

Ronis is tied with Fred Zinkie, on average. Zinkie has three firsts, two seconds and a fourth in his six seasons. Zinkie’s winning total is second overall, a little behind Tout Wars’ six time champion Larry Schechter.

Head over to the chart to see how the Touts are doing.


Tout Wars Head To Head, Origins!

By Rotoman.

Going into this year, for most of Tout Wars’ 18-year history, I played in Tout Wars NL. This was my NL home league, and while each year a face or two might change, there was great continuity and camaraderie. So it felt odd, this past Sunday, to be sitting outside the Fishbowl at SiriusXM in NYC, watching reigning champ Mike Gianella and three-time champ Tristan Cockcroft and tw0-time champ Scott Wilderman and one-time champs Brian Walton and Steve Gardner and half-champ Lenny Melnick (with Irwin Zwilling), setting NL-only benchmark roto prices while putting their teams together. How did this happen?

2016-03-18 19.10.32It happened because this year I chose to play in the brand new Tout Wars Head To Head League. There were a few reasons for this. Let me count the ways (in no particular order).
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The Tout Wars Leaderboard Has Been Updated.

Who has been the most successful Tout Wars owner the last five years? Fred Zinkie.

Who has been the most successful Tout Wars owner the last ten years? Larry Schechter.

Who are the all time top 10 earners in Tout?

Larry Schechter 11 $256 $2,820
Fred Zinkie 5 $461 $2,306
Mike Lombardo 5 $316 $1,579
Tristan Cockcroft 9 $164 $1,473
Jason Grey 11 $125 $1,380
Ron Shandler 18 $53 $946
John Coleman 5 $170 $849
Sam Walker 6 $140 $840
Trace Wood 6 $140 $840
Chris Liss 7 $115 $804

You can find all this info and more in the Tout Wars Leaderboard, which has now been updated to include the 2015 finishes.

How is the Leaderboard calculated? Each team is attributed a $100 entry fee into the league. The winnings for each league are distributed to the top one third of the teams in the league, based on a proportional formula.


Gene McCaffrey (Tout NL): LET’S TALK ABOUT ME!

I can’t believe how big the whole thing is now. Back in the day we would huddle in the dank basement of some New York bar. One year we drafted in Steve Moyer’s basement, which I thought was great but later heard tell of other putative Warriors who did not. Now there are at least a hundred people there either drafting or media-involved. Even girls! Maybe three! TV cameras, live radio broadcasts, no question we’re big shots.

Gene McCaffrey, with Steve Gardner, Todd Zola and Lenny Melnick.
Gene McCaffrey, with Steve Gardner, Todd Zola and Lenny Melnick.

The best thing is that the people are terrific. The very few assholes who have passed through the expert ranks of fantasy baseball over the years all disappeared quickly. I mean, I’m the biggest asshole there and I’m only an asshole sometimes. But you want to know about my team.

I won the battle but I may have lost the war. Here’s The Conundrum: in NL- or AL-only leagues the bargains are going to come on the pitchers, but you can’t get too many or you won’t have enough money to buy an offense. Everyone is spending 30 percent or less on pitching and bragging about it, which ABSOLUTELY guarantees that 1) pitchers will be undervalued, and 2) hitters will be overvalued. (A corollary is that some team or teams who don’t spend on pitching are going to score some pitching bargains, making them instant contenders.) When it works it looks great, when it doesn’t—which is usually since everyone is doing it—it looks terrible, but no one cares because odds are that’s what the winner did. To me this state of affairs calls for a contrary strategy and hence the conundrum. Continue reading “Gene McCaffrey (Tout NL): LET’S TALK ABOUT ME!”